posted April 21, 2003 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by arromdee:
Looking at the maps, GA Spectre and SA/BA Spectre are each done-in-2 1/2, so it might not be a bad idea to make them a single Spectre series.

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Those of us who are interested in only GA (or only SA) stories would disagree. If there's a distinct break between the runs, GA and SA stories should be in separate editions.

(Silver Age) Flash v1 taught me that one. Flash #104 (Jay Garrick) was included in that volume to give some background to Barry's inspiration. Okay, I can see why that should work, but I felt cheated out of another SA story because of the pages spent on a story that were from a different time.

And frankly, I wish that Black Canary were done as a skinny volume as well because the Jonny Thunder solo, Starman Team-Up, and Alex Toth stories just didn't do it for me. The GA material alone would have been worth the "skinny" price to me -- I just think of the rest as back-ups.

posted April 21, 2003 07:04 PM               

-Steve

posted April 21, 2003 07:44 PM               

You really have a point here. I would buy a Captain Comet or Knights archive, but do want to see the other 80% you are talking about. The back issues of Strange Adventures (and MIS) I have been able to obtain contain some of my favorite DC stuff ever and I can only expect the same for the remaining anthology stories I haven't read. I worry that DC will never do it though, given the poor sales of previous attempts.

To chime in on another topic here, I do think SA Spectre and BA Spectre should be seperate volumes. Make the last of each a skinny one if need be...

posted April 21, 2003 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by srca1941:
We didn't loose out on an extra SA Flash issue by having the Jay story in there. We actually gained a story...

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Thanks for the clarification. I don't recall if that was included in Bob G.'s response to my asking "why?", and page count is a good thing, I suppose.

Still, I'd prefer that GA and SA stories remain in separate volumes. Besides, now that Spectre has already been printed as "Golden Age Spectre", what would we call the volume that included the last GA and the first SA stories? "Golden Age Spectre Archives with some Silver Age Spectre Thrown In to Fill Out the Page Count"? Try to fit that on the spine!

posted April 21, 2003 08:17 PM            

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Originally posted by James Friel:
Much as I want to see B&B done as an anthology, vze2, there's a flaw in your argument.

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I really have no idea how to estimate production costs. I agree that 3 volumes is probably 3 times the cost. Any idea what a good ballpark figure might be?

I agree that 500 is "much better", but I'm also hoping that I've grossly overestimated. It seems to me that the total sales for all 3 volumes would form a flatter curve than just about any other series of 3 consecutive volumes? I know we're all in the dark here, but if anyone thinks that they might have a more reliable estimate, I'd love to read it.

I'm with you on Captain Comet. I'm not very familiar with Strange Adventures, but what I've been impressed by the stand-alone stories I've seen. I'll also go out on a limb and suggest that Strange Adventures would sell better than Captain Comet. Let's face it, Captain Comet doesn't have the same name recognition as anyone that's had an Archive so far, with the possible exception of Enemy Ace.

posted April 21, 2003 09:44 PM            

Tor 3 is probably going to be little more than the mini-series that came out from Marvel several years ago.

I haven't read Tor 2 yet, but I'm going to assume that it is a lot like Tor 1 which had a significant amount of non-Tor material, although it was done by Kubert.

DC could have used only the old Tor material (Tor, not Danny Dreams) and placed it in one volume. But instead they decided to go with a three-volume set that has been criticized as being overpriced for the page count. Sales were good enough to get a volume 2 and, presumably, a volume 3.

While the art in Danny Dreams might be better than the non-Kubert art in The Brave and the Bold, Robin Hood, Silent Knight, and even Golden Gladiator are bigger draws as characters than Danny. And Heath and Novick aren't bad. And I think a low page count will be an issue.

posted April 21, 2003 09:46 PM               

Regarding Brave and the Bold, I want all that material. I saw a few covers Russ Heath did in the Sgt. Rock book and he blew me away. I want to read this stuff because I have a bent for that era of history, and doggone it if Heath and Kubert drawing Viking Prince and Silent Knight just don't make me all giggly inside. I wanna read it all.

And if we were going to get a volume of VP and a volume of SK, why not three volumes of it all?

posted April 21, 2003 10:22 PM            

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Originally posted by dylanfan:
I want those last three stories AND the Popp, because I ain't ever read 'em!

Regarding Brave and the Bold,...I wanna read it all.

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I knew Marvel fans couldn't be all bad.

posted May 05, 2003 10:40 AM            

Theres was also a tile called Champion Sports that ran for 3 issues I think?

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Originally posted by quincyjb:

My favorite candidate for a done-in-one slim volume is Strange Sports Stories. Five issues of Brave and the Bold, this should come in at about 125 pages. If I were the editor, I would pad it out to 150 pages with other stories by the same creative team involving sports. My favorite candidate is a Detective Chimp story centered on baseball.

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posted May 05, 2003 07:36 PM               

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Originally posted by Unknown Question:
Strange Sports Stories appeared in its own title for a 6 issue run, besides the B&B issues and DC Superstars # 10 is the Strange Sports Stories issue even if its 2 reprints and one new superhero sports story. I know the DC Digest and DC Specials were reprints though but how much other material were reprints?

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I've never seen the digests, so no idea on the reprint content.

The 70s series Strange Sports Stories struck me as a bad fit for the five Silver Age issues. I've only read two issues of it, but if my memories are accurate, the stories were more DC mystery rather than the SA pseudo science of the earlier issues.